diff --git a/test/test_option_calculation.py b/test/test_option_calculation.py
index d4fa050..eebbd3a 100644
--- a/test/test_option_calculation.py
+++ b/test/test_option_calculation.py
@@ -345,6 +345,17 @@ def test_callback_list():
     raises(ValueError, "cfg.val1")
 
 
+def test_callback_list2():
+    val1 = StrOption('val1', "", callback=return_list)
+    val2 = StrOption('val2', "", callback=return_value, callback_params={'': ((val1, False),)})
+    maconfig = OptionDescription('rootconfig', '', [val1, val2])
+    cfg = Config(maconfig)
+    cfg.read_write()
+    raises(ValueError, "cfg.val1")
+    #cfg.val2
+    raises(ValueError, "cfg.val2")
+
+
 def test_callback_multi():
     val1 = StrOption('val1', "", callback=return_val, multi=True)
     maconfig = OptionDescription('rootconfig', '', [val1])
diff --git a/tiramisu/autolib.py b/tiramisu/autolib.py
index 8c54f38..bb7698f 100644
--- a/tiramisu/autolib.py
+++ b/tiramisu/autolib.py
@@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ from .setting import undefined
 
 
 def carry_out_calculation(option, context, callback, callback_params,
-                          index=undefined):
+                          index=undefined, validate=True):
     """a function that carries out a calculation for an option's value
 
     :param option: the option
@@ -162,9 +162,14 @@ def carry_out_calculation(option, context, callback, callback_params,
                     else:
                         path = context.cfgimpl_get_description(
                         ).impl_get_path_by_opt(opt)
+                    # don't validate if option is option that we tried to validate
+                    if opt == option:
+                        valid = False
+                    else:
+                        valid = validate
                     # get value
                     value = context.getattr(path, force_permissive=True,
-                                            validate=False, returns_raise=True)
+                                            validate=valid, returns_raise=True)
                     if isinstance(value, Exception):
                         if isinstance(value, PropertiesOptionError):
                             if force_permissive:
diff --git a/tiramisu/value.py b/tiramisu/value.py
index df93256..2631b40 100644
--- a/tiramisu/value.py
+++ b/tiramisu/value.py
@@ -57,14 +57,14 @@ class Values(object):
     def _get_multi(self, opt, path):
         return Multi([], self.context, opt, path)
 
-    def _getdefaultvalue(self, opt, path, with_meta, index, submulti_index):
+    def _getdefaultvalue(self, opt, path, with_meta, index, submulti_index, validate):
         # if value has callback and is not set
         if opt.impl_has_callback():
             callback, callback_params = opt.impl_get_callback()
             value = carry_out_calculation(opt, context=self._getcontext(),
                                           callback=callback,
                                           callback_params=callback_params,
-                                          index=index)
+                                          index=index, validate=validate)
             if isinstance(value, list) and index is not None:
                 #if return a list and index is set, return value only if
                 #it's a submulti without submulti_index and without list of list
@@ -102,7 +102,7 @@ class Values(object):
         return value
 
     def _getvalue(self, opt, path, self_properties, index, submulti_index,
-                  with_meta, masterlen, session):
+                  with_meta, masterlen, session, validate):
         """actually retrieves the value
 
         :param opt: the `option.Option()` object
@@ -129,7 +129,7 @@ class Values(object):
                 else:
                     return value
         return self._getdefaultvalue(opt, path, with_meta, index,
-                                     submulti_index)
+                                     submulti_index, validate)
 
     def get_modified_values(self):
         return self._p_.get_modified_values()
@@ -181,7 +181,7 @@ class Values(object):
                                                              setting_properties=_setting_properties,
                                                              read_write=False,
                                                              apply_requires=False):
-                value = self._getdefaultvalue(opt, path, True, undefined, undefined)
+                value = self._getdefaultvalue(opt, path, True, undefined, undefined, validate)
                 if isinstance(value, Exception):
                     raise value
                 self._setvalue(opt, path, value, force_owner=owners.forced)
@@ -313,7 +313,7 @@ class Values(object):
         if session is None:
             session = self._p_.getsession()
         value = self._getvalue(opt, path, self_properties, index, submulti_index,
-                               with_meta, masterlen, session)
+                               with_meta, masterlen, session, validate)
         if isinstance(value, Exception):
             value_error = True
             if isinstance(value, ConfigError):
@@ -781,7 +781,7 @@ class Multi(list):
     def _getdefaultvalue(self, index):
         values = self._getcontext().cfgimpl_get_values()
         value = values._getdefaultvalue(self.opt, self.path, True, index,
-                                        undefined)
+                                        undefined, True)
         if self.opt.impl_is_submulti():
             value = SubMulti(value, self.context, self.opt, self.path, index)
         return value
@@ -963,4 +963,4 @@ class SubMulti(Multi):
     def _getdefaultvalue(self, index):
         values = self._getcontext().cfgimpl_get_values()
         return values._getdefaultvalue(self.opt, self.path, True, index,
-                                       self._index)
+                                       self._index, True)