diff --git a/src/rougail/annotator/family.py b/src/rougail/annotator/family.py
index 0ca3c31d..52648a26 100644
--- a/src/rougail/annotator/family.py
+++ b/src/rougail/annotator/family.py
@@ -39,6 +39,7 @@ class FamilyAnnotator:
             self.change_variable_mode()
             self.change_family_mode()
             self.dynamic_families()
+            self.convert_help()
 
     def remove_empty_families(self):
         """Remove all families without any variable
@@ -175,3 +176,14 @@ class FamilyAnnotator:
                     msg = _(f'dynamic family "{family.name}" must be linked '
                             f'to multi variable in {xmlfiles}')
                     raise DictConsistencyError(msg, 16)
+
+    def convert_help(self):
+        """Convert variable help
+        """
+        for families in self.objectspace.space.variables.values():
+            for family in families.family.values():
+                if hasattr(family, 'help'):
+                    if not hasattr(family, 'information'):
+                        family.information = self.objectspace.information(family.xmlfiles)
+                    family.information.help = family.help
+                    del family.help
diff --git a/src/rougail/annotator/service.py b/src/rougail/annotator/service.py
index 2ebe9a15..d7984a06 100644
--- a/src/rougail/annotator/service.py
+++ b/src/rougail/annotator/service.py
@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@ from ..error import DictConsistencyError
 ERASED_ATTRIBUTES = ('redefine', 'exists', 'fallback', 'optional', 'remove_check', 'namespace',
                      'remove_condition', 'path', 'instance_mode', 'index', 'is_in_leadership',
                      'level', 'remove_fill', 'xmlfiles', 'type', 'reflector_name',
-                     'reflector_object',)
+                     'reflector_object', 'manage')
 
 
 KEY_TYPE = {'variable': 'symlink',
@@ -50,14 +50,12 @@ class ServiceAnnotator:
         self.objectspace.space.services.name = 'services'
         self.objectspace.space.services.doc = 'services'
         self.objectspace.space.services.path = 'services'
-        families = {}
-        for service_name in self.objectspace.space.services.service.keys():
-            service = self.objectspace.space.services.service[service_name]
-            new_service = self.objectspace.service(service.xmlfiles)
-            new_service.path = f'services.{service_name}'
-            for elttype, values in vars(service).items():
+        for service_name, service in self.objectspace.space.services.service.items():
+            service.information = self.objectspace.information(service.xmlfiles)
+            service.information.manage = service.manage
+            service.manage = None
+            for elttype, values in dict(vars(service)).items():
                 if not isinstance(values, (dict, list)) or elttype in ERASED_ATTRIBUTES:
-                    setattr(new_service, elttype, values)
                     continue
                 eltname = elttype + 's'
                 path = '.'.join(['services', normalize_family(service_name), eltname])
@@ -72,10 +70,8 @@ class ServiceAnnotator:
                                                           values,
                                                           path,
                                                           )
-                setattr(new_service, elttype, family)
-            new_service.doc = new_service.name
-            families[service_name] = new_service
-        self.objectspace.space.services.service = families
+                setattr(service, elttype, family)
+            service.doc = service.name
 
     def make_group_from_elts(self,
                              service_name,
diff --git a/src/rougail/annotator/variable.py b/src/rougail/annotator/variable.py
index dc127089..593975cd 100644
--- a/src/rougail/annotator/variable.py
+++ b/src/rougail/annotator/variable.py
@@ -54,6 +54,7 @@ class VariableAnnotator:  # pylint: disable=R0903
         self.objectspace = objectspace
         self.convert_variable()
         self.convert_test()
+        self.convert_help()
 
     def convert_variable(self):
         """convert variable
@@ -162,16 +163,38 @@ class VariableAnnotator:  # pylint: disable=R0903
     def _convert_test(self,
                       variable,
                       ) -> None:
+        if not hasattr(variable, 'information'):
+            variable.information = self.objectspace.information(variable.xmlfiles)
         if hasattr(variable, 'test'):
-            if not variable.test:
-                del variable.test
-                return
-            values = variable.test.split('|')
-            new_values = []
-            for value in values:
-                if value == '':
-                    value = None
-                else:
-                    value = CONVERT_OPTION.get(variable.type, {}).get('func', str)(value)
-                new_values.append(value)
-            variable.test = tuple(new_values)
+            if variable.test:
+                values = variable.test.split('|')
+                new_values = []
+                for value in values:
+                    if value == '':
+                        value = None
+                    else:
+                        value = CONVERT_OPTION.get(variable.type, {}).get('func', str)(value)
+                    new_values.append(value)
+                variable.information.test = tuple(new_values)
+            del variable.test
+
+    def convert_help(self):
+        """Convert variable help
+        """
+        for families in self.objectspace.space.variables.values():
+            for family in families.family.values():
+                if not hasattr(family, 'variable'):
+                    continue
+                for variable in family.variable.values():
+                    if isinstance(variable, self.objectspace.leadership):
+                        for follower in variable.variable:
+                            self._convert_help(follower)
+                    else:
+                        self._convert_help(variable)
+
+    def _convert_help(self,
+                      variable,
+                      ) -> None:
+        if hasattr(variable, 'help'):
+            variable.information.help = variable.help
+            del variable.help
diff --git a/src/rougail/objspace.py b/src/rougail/objspace.py
index 6f6ff350..00a04407 100644
--- a/src/rougail/objspace.py
+++ b/src/rougail/objspace.py
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ FORCE_UNREDEFINABLES = ('value',)
 # RougailObjSpace's elements that shall not be modify
 UNREDEFINABLE = ('multi', 'type')
 # RougailObjSpace's elements that did not created automaticly
-FORCE_ELEMENTS = ('choice', 'property_', 'leadership')
+FORCE_ELEMENTS = ('choice', 'property_', 'leadership', 'information')
 # XML text are convert has name
 FORCED_TEXT_ELTS_AS_NAME = ('choice', 'property', 'value', 'target')
 
diff --git a/src/rougail/tiramisureflector.py b/src/rougail/tiramisureflector.py
index e022f315..b86193bf 100644
--- a/src/rougail/tiramisureflector.py
+++ b/src/rougail/tiramisureflector.py
@@ -3,12 +3,10 @@ flattened XML specific
 """
 from .config import Config
 from .annotator import ERASED_ATTRIBUTES, CONVERT_OPTION
-#from .objspace import UnRedefinable, Redefinable, Atom
 
 
 FUNC_TO_DICT = []
-FORCE_INFORMATIONS = ['help', 'test', 'manage']
-ATTRIBUTES_ORDER = ('name', 'doc', 'default', 'multi')
+ATTRIBUTES_ORDER = ('name', 'doc', 'default', 'multi', 'properties', 'max_number', 'min_number', 'dynamic', 'opt')
 
 
 class Root():  # pylint: disable=R0903
@@ -180,7 +178,6 @@ class Common:
         self.elt = elt
         self.option_name = None
         self.attrib = {}
-        self.informations = {}
         self.text = text
         self.elt.reflector_object = self
 
@@ -228,7 +225,11 @@ class Common:
     def populate_informations(self):
         """Populate Tiramisu's informations
         """
-        for key, value in self.informations.items():
+        if not hasattr(self.elt, 'information'):
+            return
+        for key, value in vars(self.elt.information).items():
+            if key == 'xmlfiles':
+                continue
             if isinstance(value, str):
                 value = '"' + value.replace('"', '\"') + '"'
             self.text.append(f'{self.option_name}.impl_set_information("{key}", {value})')
@@ -236,17 +237,9 @@ class Common:
     def get_attributes(self, space):  # pylint: disable=R0201
         """Get attributes
         """
-        attributes = dir(space)
         for attr in ATTRIBUTES_ORDER:
-            if attr in attributes:
+            if hasattr(space, attr):
                 yield attr
-        for attr in dir(space):
-            if attr not in ATTRIBUTES_ORDER:
-                if not attr.startswith('_') and attr not in ERASED_ATTRIBUTES:
-                    value = getattr(space, attr)
-                    if not isinstance(value, (list, dict)) and \
-                            not value.__class__.__name__ == 'Family':
-                        yield attr
 
     @staticmethod
     def get_children(space):
@@ -296,11 +289,7 @@ class Variable(Common):
         """Populate attributes
         """
         for key in self.get_attributes(self.elt):
-            value = getattr(self.elt, key)
-            if key in FORCE_INFORMATIONS:
-                self.informations[key] = value
-            else:
-                self.attrib[key] = value
+            self.attrib[key] = getattr(self.elt, key)
 
     def parse_children(self):
         """Parse children
@@ -346,6 +335,8 @@ class Variable(Common):
             self.calculate_choice(child,
                                   choices,
                                   )
+        else:  # pragma: no cover
+            raise Exception(f'unknown tag {tag}')
 
     def calculate_choice(self,
                          child,
@@ -475,9 +466,7 @@ class Family(Common):
         """
         for key in self.get_attributes(self.elt):
             value = getattr(self.elt, key)
-            if key in FORCE_INFORMATIONS:
-                self.informations[key] = value
-            elif key == 'dynamic':
+            if key == 'dynamic':
                 dynamic = value.reflector_object.get()
                 self.attrib['suffixes'] = \
                         f"Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption({dynamic}))))"
diff --git a/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic/tiramisu/base.py b/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic/tiramisu/base.py
index 3a501927..f5598ddf 100644
--- a/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic/tiramisu/base.py
+++ b/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic/tiramisu/base.py
@@ -15,6 +15,6 @@ from rougail.tiramisu import ConvertDynOptionDescription
 option_3 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'mandatory', 'normal'}), name='varname', doc='No change', multi=True, default=['val1', 'val2'], default_multi='val2')
 option_2 = OptionDescription(name='general', doc='general', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_3])
 option_5 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'normal'}), name='vardyn', doc='No change', multi=False)
-option_4 = ConvertDynOptionDescription(name='dyn', doc='dyn', suffixes=Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption(option_3)))), properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_5])
+option_4 = ConvertDynOptionDescription(name='dyn', doc='dyn', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), suffixes=Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption(option_3)))), children=[option_5])
 option_1 = OptionDescription(name='rougail', doc='rougail', children=[option_2, option_4])
 option_0 = OptionDescription(name='baseoption', doc='baseoption', children=[option_1])
diff --git a/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_calc/tiramisu/base.py b/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_calc/tiramisu/base.py
index fa37f444..eab80d32 100644
--- a/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_calc/tiramisu/base.py
+++ b/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_calc/tiramisu/base.py
@@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ from rougail.tiramisu import ConvertDynOptionDescription
 option_3 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'mandatory', 'normal'}), name='varname', doc='No change', multi=True, default=['val1', 'val2'], default_multi='val2')
 option_2 = OptionDescription(name='general', doc='general', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_3])
 option_5 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'mandatory', 'normal'}), name='vardyn', doc='No change', multi=False, default='val')
-option_4 = ConvertDynOptionDescription(name='dyn', doc='dyn', suffixes=Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption(option_3)))), properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_5])
+option_4 = ConvertDynOptionDescription(name='dyn', doc='dyn', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), suffixes=Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption(option_3)))), children=[option_5])
 option_7 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'normal'}), name='newvar', doc='No change', multi=False, default=Calculation(func.calc_val, Params((ParamDynOption(option_5, 'val1', option_4, notraisepropertyerror=False, todict=False)), kwargs={})))
 option_6 = OptionDescription(name='new', doc='new', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_7])
 option_1 = OptionDescription(name='rougail', doc='rougail', children=[option_2, option_4, option_6])
diff --git a/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_calc2/tiramisu/base.py b/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_calc2/tiramisu/base.py
index 8909481c..a046cc01 100644
--- a/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_calc2/tiramisu/base.py
+++ b/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_calc2/tiramisu/base.py
@@ -16,7 +16,7 @@ option_3 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'mandatory', 'normal'}), name='varnam
 option_2 = OptionDescription(name='general', doc='general', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_3])
 option_7 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'normal'}), name='newvar', doc='No change', multi=False)
 option_5 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'mandatory', 'normal', Calculation(calc_value, Params(ParamValue('frozen'), kwargs={'condition': ParamOption(option_7, todict=True), 'expected': ParamValue('non')})), Calculation(calc_value, Params(ParamValue('force_default_on_freeze'), kwargs={'condition': ParamOption(option_7, todict=True), 'expected': ParamValue('non')}))}), name='vardyn', doc='No change', multi=False, default='val')
-option_4 = ConvertDynOptionDescription(name='dyn', doc='dyn', suffixes=Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption(option_3)))), properties=frozenset({'normal', Calculation(calc_value, Params(ParamValue('hidden'), kwargs={'condition': ParamOption(option_7, todict=True), 'expected': ParamValue('non')}))}), children=[option_5])
+option_4 = ConvertDynOptionDescription(name='dyn', doc='dyn', properties=frozenset({'normal', Calculation(calc_value, Params(ParamValue('hidden'), kwargs={'condition': ParamOption(option_7, todict=True), 'expected': ParamValue('non')}))}), suffixes=Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption(option_3)))), children=[option_5])
 option_6 = OptionDescription(name='new', doc='new', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_7])
 option_1 = OptionDescription(name='rougail', doc='rougail', children=[option_2, option_4, option_6])
 option_0 = OptionDescription(name='baseoption', doc='baseoption', children=[option_1])
diff --git a/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_calc_suffix/tiramisu/base.py b/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_calc_suffix/tiramisu/base.py
index 61ed3bcd..c7b9c11b 100644
--- a/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_calc_suffix/tiramisu/base.py
+++ b/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_calc_suffix/tiramisu/base.py
@@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ from rougail.tiramisu import ConvertDynOptionDescription
 option_3 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'mandatory', 'normal'}), name='varname', doc='No change', multi=True, default=['val1', 'val2'], default_multi='val2')
 option_2 = OptionDescription(name='general', doc='general', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_3])
 option_5 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'normal'}), name='vardyn', doc='No change', multi=False, default=Calculation(func.calc_val, Params((ParamSuffix()), kwargs={})))
-option_4 = ConvertDynOptionDescription(name='dyn', doc='dyn', suffixes=Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption(option_3)))), properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_5])
+option_4 = ConvertDynOptionDescription(name='dyn', doc='dyn', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), suffixes=Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption(option_3)))), children=[option_5])
 option_7 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'normal'}), name='newvar', doc='No change', multi=False)
 option_6 = OptionDescription(name='new', doc='new', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_7])
 option_1 = OptionDescription(name='rougail', doc='rougail', children=[option_2, option_4, option_6])
diff --git a/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_description/tiramisu/base.py b/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_description/tiramisu/base.py
index 73fa3ba2..7699dca7 100644
--- a/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_description/tiramisu/base.py
+++ b/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_description/tiramisu/base.py
@@ -15,6 +15,6 @@ from rougail.tiramisu import ConvertDynOptionDescription
 option_3 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'mandatory', 'normal'}), name='varname', doc='No change', multi=True, default=['val1', 'val2'], default_multi='val2')
 option_2 = OptionDescription(name='general', doc='general', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_3])
 option_5 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'normal'}), name='vardyn', doc='No change', multi=False)
-option_4 = ConvertDynOptionDescription(name='dyn', doc='Dyn ', suffixes=Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption(option_3)))), properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_5])
+option_4 = ConvertDynOptionDescription(name='dyn', doc='Dyn ', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), suffixes=Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption(option_3)))), children=[option_5])
 option_1 = OptionDescription(name='rougail', doc='rougail', children=[option_2, option_4])
 option_0 = OptionDescription(name='baseoption', doc='baseoption', children=[option_1])
diff --git a/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_number/tiramisu/base.py b/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_number/tiramisu/base.py
index dc7f511e..137b58ee 100644
--- a/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_number/tiramisu/base.py
+++ b/tests/dictionaries/20family_dynamic_number/tiramisu/base.py
@@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ from rougail.tiramisu import ConvertDynOptionDescription
 option_3 = IntOption(properties=frozenset({'mandatory', 'normal'}), name='varname', doc='No change', multi=True, default=[1, 2], default_multi=2)
 option_2 = OptionDescription(name='general', doc='general', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_3])
 option_5 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'mandatory', 'normal'}), name='vardyn', doc='No change', multi=False, default='val')
-option_4 = ConvertDynOptionDescription(name='dyn', doc='dyn', suffixes=Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption(option_3)))), properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_5])
+option_4 = ConvertDynOptionDescription(name='dyn', doc='dyn', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), suffixes=Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption(option_3)))), children=[option_5])
 option_7 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'normal'}), name='newvar', doc='No change', multi=False, default=Calculation(func.calc_val, Params((ParamDynOption(option_5, '1', option_4, notraisepropertyerror=False, todict=False)), kwargs={})))
 option_6 = OptionDescription(name='new', doc='new', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_7])
 option_1 = OptionDescription(name='rougail', doc='rougail', children=[option_2, option_4, option_6])
diff --git a/tests/dictionaries/61extra_dyn/tiramisu/base.py b/tests/dictionaries/61extra_dyn/tiramisu/base.py
index 3dec2b80..0efbe600 100644
--- a/tests/dictionaries/61extra_dyn/tiramisu/base.py
+++ b/tests/dictionaries/61extra_dyn/tiramisu/base.py
@@ -16,6 +16,6 @@ option_3 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'mandatory', 'normal'}), name='varnam
 option_2 = OptionDescription(name='general', doc='général', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_3])
 option_1 = OptionDescription(name='rougail', doc='rougail', children=[option_2])
 option_6 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'normal'}), name='mode', doc='mode', multi=False)
-option_5 = ConvertDynOptionDescription(name='ejabberd', doc='ejabberd', suffixes=Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption(option_3)))), properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_6])
+option_5 = ConvertDynOptionDescription(name='ejabberd', doc='ejabberd', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), suffixes=Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption(option_3)))), children=[option_6])
 option_4 = OptionDescription(name='extra', doc='extra', children=[option_5])
 option_0 = OptionDescription(name='baseoption', doc='baseoption', children=[option_1, option_4])
diff --git a/tests/dictionaries/61extra_dyn_extra/tiramisu/base.py b/tests/dictionaries/61extra_dyn_extra/tiramisu/base.py
index 75c88a32..c43c70f3 100644
--- a/tests/dictionaries/61extra_dyn_extra/tiramisu/base.py
+++ b/tests/dictionaries/61extra_dyn_extra/tiramisu/base.py
@@ -18,6 +18,6 @@ option_1 = OptionDescription(name='rougail', doc='rougail', children=[option_2])
 option_6 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'mandatory', 'normal'}), name='varname', doc='No change', multi=True, default=['a'], default_multi='a')
 option_5 = OptionDescription(name='general', doc='général', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_6])
 option_8 = StrOption(properties=frozenset({'normal'}), name='mode', doc='mode', multi=False)
-option_7 = ConvertDynOptionDescription(name='ejabberd', doc='ejabberd', suffixes=Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption(option_6)))), properties=frozenset({'normal'}), children=[option_8])
+option_7 = ConvertDynOptionDescription(name='ejabberd', doc='ejabberd', properties=frozenset({'normal'}), suffixes=Calculation(func.calc_value, Params((ParamOption(option_6)))), children=[option_8])
 option_4 = OptionDescription(name='extra', doc='extra', children=[option_5, option_7])
 option_0 = OptionDescription(name='baseoption', doc='baseoption', children=[option_1, option_4])